"People spend their lives trying to get to the top of the pillar. I saw the politics ... inevitably somebody would get pushed out. And I said, I don't wanna do this anymore. I wanted do my own thing."
Escaping the Caterpillar Pillar with Jared Dillian
Escaping the Caterpillar Pillar with Jared…
Escaping the Caterpillar Pillar with Jared Dillian
"People spend their lives trying to get to the top of the pillar. I saw the politics ... inevitably somebody would get pushed out. And I said, I don't wanna do this anymore. I wanted do my own thing."